The thing that makes Microsoft's case particularly annoying is that they have demonstrated how they can develop half-decent Electron apps with VS Code, but have simply elected not to with anything that's not VS Code.

Like yes, I'd prefer native and MS can certainly afford to take that path, but they can't even be bothered to make sure that most of their Electron apps land on the upper half of the quality spectrum.

> they can develop half-decent Electron apps with VS Code,

Only if you don't compare it with any native or quasi native editors like Notepad++ or Sublime text. And Emacs has been cross-platform for decades.

Also they bloated it to death. VSCodium gets you the same solid core app without the oodles and oodles of useless "features" Microsoft has bolted to it.

What's extra egregious there is I do understand the logic because developing for Windows is such a fucking nightmare, that they're also responsible for.

I assure you, developing for competing platforms is also a fucking nightmare... that's something Microsoft has no monopoly on!

And I assure you, developing for Mac is a delight, and Linux is not so bad either. Windows, however, fucking disgrace.

As an iOS dev who then got Mac development effectively for free in the bargain, fucking this. Xcode is not perfect, far from it, but it is still head, shoulders, cock and balls above every other toolset I've ever used, bar none. And while the IDE itself is like, mid, you simply can't beat the ease of use. Someone who has never built software for iOS or MacOS can fire up Xcode and have something running probably within an hour that does interesting stuff.

Do you have experience with Jetbrains products? If yes, wdyt where are they lacking and how XCode is better? For me Jetbrains is miles ahead of XCode.

Yikes. What apps have they been doing this with?

Turns out I was mistaken. Outlook was rewritten for Webview, not Electron. So still took a native application and turned it into web nonsense, but I got the specifics wrong.

Regardless, there are a bunch of new visual glitches in the release, with regressed performance all over the place.

Having just switched from Google Workspace + Mac to all-Microsoft + Windows, it's been so difficult adjusting. I can choose between two desktop versions of Outlook or the Web, and I just use the Web because it's the least weird and somehow faster than the new desktop app (which is just the PWA one anyway).

But I still have to open a modal just because I dragged a meeting from one time to another. This version of Outlook is, slowly, getting better though.